Hello to all,

I'm Adam, and a new fan of The Prisoner.

I saw the new series from AMC and liked it so I began seeing the original, and loved it even more (apecialy the ending)

When I started to watch the original I saw it in the KTEH order

but I have question about somthing that I'm gussing was talked to death here but I cant find the post on it

I know the story of how the original series came to be. how Pat wanted 7 episodes but Lue wanted more and in the end there were 17 episode made.

I also know/saw Pat in an interview say that the show really should have been only 7 episodes

but for the love of it all I cant find one clip of interview or paper where Pat says what were the 7 original episodes

I found only two sources on the net claming to know what were the original 7 episodes:

stason.org/TULARC/tv/the-prisoner/4-In-w...uld-I-watch-the-e...

and

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Prisoner_episodes

but none of them say from where they got this list + they both give two diffrent viewing orders

if someone here knows the answer I would realy love to hear it, thanks in advance

Adam

Hello Adam (Again)

We were talking about the seven episodes which form the true basis of The Prisoner. Well, they picked their seven, but they're not my seven. They claim they're mine, but they're not. Everything they claimed that I said, apart from two things, is inaccurate.................................................. - Patrick McGoohan quoted in a Fan magazine interview - 1991

As you can see by the quote above Mr. McGoohan never named any of the "7" by name ... he has in other interviews referred to Living in Harmony and The Girl Who Was Death as "filler" episodes.

Here is a link to a blog that has excellent comments on some of these matters:

numbersixwasinnocent.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

Here are McG's comments from the Troyer interview on the matter of The "7" andsome links to some threads that speculates on the matter of the "7":


Troyer: You didn't initially want to do 17 films?

McGoohan: No, seven, as a serial as opposed to a series. I thought the concept of the thing would sustain for only 7, but then Lew Grade wanted to make his sale to CBS, I believe (first ran it in the States) and he said he couldn't make a deal unless he had more, and he wanted 26, and I couldn't conceive of 26 stories, because it would be spreading it very thin, but we did manage, over a week-end, with my writers, to cook up ten more outlines, and eventually we did 17, but it should be 7.

Troyer: But you did ten in two days? Ten outlines?

McGoohan: Over a week-end, yes. Outlines, I mean a sort of...7 or 8 page format. (Troyer chuckles.)

Troyer: How would you have described or explained the concept of the series to those writers, the first time you sat down with them, what did you tell them?

McGoohan: It was very difficult because they were also prisoners of conditioning, and they were used to writing for "The Saint" series of the "Secret Agent" series and it was very difficult to explain, and we lost a few by the wayside. I had sat down and I wrote a 40-page, sort of, history of the Village, the sort of telephones they used, the sewerage system, what they ate, the transport, the boundaries, a description of the Village, every aspect of it; and they were all given copies of this and then, naturally, we talked to them about it, sent them away and hoped they would come up with an idea that was feasible.

Troyer: What about the philosophy, the rationale of the Village? What did you tell them about that? Its raison-d'etre, not its mechanics...

McGoohan: (very deliberately) It was a place that is trying to destroy the individual by every means possible; trying to break his spirit, so that he accepts that he is No. 6 and will live there happily as No. 6 for ever after. And this is the one rebel that they can't break.

www.unmutual.com/the-prisoner/viewthread.php?tid=2966

www.unmutual.com/the-prisoner/viewthread...?tid=798&page=10

BCNU

Tommcfearsom